{"id":2566,"date":"2012-03-16T14:55:46","date_gmt":"2012-03-16T20:55:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tombedell.com\/?p=2566"},"modified":"2016-03-19T07:07:21","modified_gmt":"2016-03-19T13:07:21","slug":"tap-beers-of-the-week-guinness-black-lager-vs-guinness-draught","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/golf\/lifestyle\/2566\/tap-beers-of-the-week-guinness-black-lager-vs-guinness-draught","title":{"rendered":"TAP Beer(s) of the Week: Guinness Black Lager vs. Guinness Draught"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/Guinness-Black-Lager.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-large wp-image-2569\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/Guinness-Black-Lager-458x1024.jpg\" width=\"198\" height=\"442\" \/><\/a><em>[Mar. 16, 2012] <\/em>There was an egregious saying in my misspent youth, \u201cOnce you go black, you\u2019ll never go back,\u201d which when uttered by white people seemed to be a racial tribute wrapped in a slur. In any case, it wasn\u2019t referring to beer.<\/p>\n<p>But these days, black is beautiful in the beer world. Black IPAs are the particular rage, though every brewery worth its roasted barley is making at least one stout, if not an oatmeal or Imperial or bourbon barrel-aged stout as well. Around this time of year, stout is the way to go. (St. Patrick\u2019s Day is Christmas, as far as the Guinness accountants are concerned.)<\/p>\n<p>So it seems a good time for another ersatz beer competition, falling short of an honest head to head (so to speak) tilt in that we\u2019re at apples and oranges again with a lager and an ale, just as we were in throwing Harpoon IPA against Brooklyn Lager (<a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/golf\/golf\/lifestyle\/2312\/tap-beers-of-the-week-brooklyn-lager-vs-harpoon-ipa\" target=\"_blank\">click here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2570\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/Caillech-says.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2570\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2570\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/Caillech-says-300x225.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2570\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Caillech says, &#8220;Pour that black stuff here, please.&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>One hardly needs to spill any cyber ink over the iconic nature of Guinness, the classic Irish dry stout, the best-selling in the world&#8211;ten million glasses a day worldwide we are told. It is the virtual Gaia of all the black stuff that has poured forth since. (Although perhaps a more Celtic goddess would be in order&#8211;Caillech?)<\/p>\n<p>No time or inclination now for a disquisition on all that parent company Diageo has done in recent years to fiddle with what was basically perfect in search of greater market share. Little of it, if any, gladdens traditionalists\u2019 hearts. Younger generations of beer geeks probably don\u2019t know what all the fuss about Guinness is to begin with and head right for the Knock Me Over the Head Imperial Double Dry-Hopped Stout.<\/p>\n<p>I digress, but the two bottles in question here could serve as Exhibits A and B in a What Were They Thinking? case. Guinness Black Lager simply seems like an idea whose time never really needed to come. Unless you\u2019re a bean counter, looking at all those non-stout drinking but wannabe Irish crowding the bar.<\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2571\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG.jpg 640w, https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG-175x130.jpg 175w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a>\n<p>There\u2019s a lot of market share out there drinking lagers. Hence, a black lager with the Guinness imprimatur, introduced to the U.S. market last September. Watch the money roll in.<\/p>\n<p>As for the bottled Guinness Draught, it does away with the widgets in the cans of Draft Guinness but still incorporates the nitrogen gassing that gives the beer its legendary creaminess. But to do this, one is supposed to drink the beer directly from the bottle.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/Ireland-Guinness.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-2578\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/Ireland-Guinness-300x225.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" \/><\/a>Drinking Guinness Stout from a bottle. Really, need any more be said? This from a company that a few years back would give away pubs in Ireland to those who could take the time and evince the skill to draw a perfect pint from the tap.<\/p>\n<p>I continue to digress, and am probably turning red instead of the season\u2019s green. So back to the beer:<\/p>\n<p>My wife and I frequently end the work day on the deck that encircles our house&#8211;she with a martini and two of the four cigarettes she allows herself daily, me with some kind of beer and a cigar. She claims it\u2019s the only time of the day that I talk to her. Not true, of course. (We frequently do the same thing in the morning, albeit with coffee.)<\/p>\n<p>But in what has been a continuing series of what I might call Hit the Deck Tastings, I often force Lynn to sample a beer or beers I\u2019m trying to get a handle on. She has a better palate than I do to begin with, even if not on the same level of beery terminology. But this is good, since she frequently comes up with novel responses to what she\u2019s tasting. So it was with these two.<\/p>\n<p>The only clue I gave her was, \u201cThey\u2019re both Guinness.\u201d Then I put the Lager in front of her.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2574\" style=\"width: 650px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG-foam.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2574\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2574\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG-foam.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG-foam.jpg 640w, https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG-foam-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/GvG-foam-175x130.jpg 175w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2574\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Similar, but not matching: the Guinness Black Lager is on the left<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u201cThat doesn\u2019t smell like the real Guinness,\u201d she said, understandably enough, if not accurately. (Both beers really are Guinness, after all, though the Lager is brewed at the company\u2019s new product site, the Great Northern Brewery in Dundalk, Ireland.) She didn\u2019t think it tasted like it, either. \u201cThere\u2019s some similarity, but there\u2019s something else going on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<em>That<\/em> smells like the real Guinness,\u201d she said of the Stout. After tasting it, she merely said, \u201cYup.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Could a Master Cicerone do better? And when she said of the Lager, \u201cIt tastes like they added seltzer to it,\u201d I couldn\u2019t get the sensory image out of my mind. It <em>did<\/em> taste like they added seltzer to it.<\/p>\n<p>The similarity comes from the use of some roasted unmalted barley in the mix, as in the stout. And it\u2019s black all right. The beer seems skillfully made, and I\u2019m happy to have tried it; I even ordered one while dining out a few weeks back, just out of curiosity. But I can\u2019t imagine this ever happening again. The beer lacks character; any German Schwarzbier would run rings around Guinness Black Lager, and wouldn\u2019t remotely suggest seltzer.<\/p>\n<p>As for the bottled Guinness Draught, its chances are slightly better, if found like the recent six-pack we picked up&#8211;at a ridiculous sale price at Wal-Mart. (Not that I\u2019m eager to admit this.)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/G-is-good-for-you.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-2575\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/G-is-good-for-you.jpeg\" width=\"436\" height=\"273\" srcset=\"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/G-is-good-for-you.jpeg 545w, https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/G-is-good-for-you-300x187.jpeg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 436px) 100vw, 436px\" \/><\/a>At least we\u2019re on more familiar ground here with the easy-drinking roasted and mild chocolately character of a beer we could down all night, if so moved. It lacks the <em>craic<\/em> of a freshly pulled pint in a noisy Irish pub, the way we really like to drink our Guinness. But, at least, it suggests it, yup.<\/p>\n<p>Name: Guinness Black Lager; Guinness Draught<br \/>\nBrewer: Guinness &amp; Co., Ireland<br \/>\nStyle: Schwarzbier; Dry Stout<br \/>\nABV: 4.5%; 4.2%<br \/>\nAvailability: Both year-round, nationwide<br \/>\nFor More Information: www.guinness.com<\/p>\n<p>Related Posts:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/golf\/lifestyle\/6515\/tap-beers-of-the-week-guinness-dublin-porter-west-indies-porter\" target=\"_blank\">Tap Beer(s) of the Week: Guinness Dublin Porter, West Indies Porter<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/golf\/lifestyle\/5783\/12-beers-of-christmas-4-guinness-the-1759\" target=\"_blank\">12 Beers of Christmas 2014: Guinness The 1759<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/golf\/lifestyle\/5946\/tap-beer-of-the-week-guinness-blonde-american-lager\" target=\"_blank\">TAP Beer of the Week: Guinness Blonde American Lager<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[Mar. 16, 2012] There was an egregious saying in my misspent youth, \u201cOnce you go black, you\u2019ll never go back,\u201d&#8230;  <a class=\"excerpt-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/golf\/lifestyle\/2566\/tap-beers-of-the-week-guinness-black-lager-vs-guinness-draught\" title=\"ReadTAP Beer(s) of the Week: Guinness Black Lager vs. Guinness Draught\">Read more &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":22,"featured_media":2569,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[754427,939,627,18],"tags":[892,2077,1460,299229,8873,1990,174704,1045975,299221,299222,299223,630,299224,641,299225,414,299226,816,299227],"class_list":["post-2566","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-beer-vs-beer","category-beer-on-tap","category-tap-beer-of-the-week","category-lifestyle","tag-black-beer","tag-diageo","tag-guinness","tag-irish-pub","tag-blackstuff","tag-craic","tag-black-ipa","tag-beer-vs-beer","tag-schwarzbier","tag-dry-stout","tag-black-lager","tag-ale","tag-hit-the-deck-tastings","tag-lager","tag-lynn-bedell","tag-ireland","tag-gaia","tag-stout","tag-caillech"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2012\/03\/Guinness-Black-Lager.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2566","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/22"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2566"}],"version-history":[{"count":17,"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2566\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6528,"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2566\/revisions\/6528"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2569"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2566"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2566"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theaposition.com\/tombedell\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2566"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}